John Brandon
I liked John the first time I met him, he has that kind of personality that I felt comfortable with right away. I meet a lot of authors in my business and most are absolutely brilliant, John certainly fits into that category. We laughed and chatted for a long time. His second book, Citrus County, was my introduction to his amazing talent (and quirky sense of humor) and I've been a fan ever since.
When I asked him to be one of the contributors to my "Time Travel" collection, he put his ingenious mind to work and came up with a totally unique way to answer my questions.
By the way, since so many of you liked the personal questions I put forth to Leif Enger, I decided to make them the standard that all of the future authors in this series will be asked.
Here is John standing in front of one of my favorite bookstores.
John Brandon was raised on the Gulf Coast of Florida. His second book, Citrus County, was featured on the cover of the New York Times Book Review. John has served as the Grisham Fellow in Creative Writing at University of Mississippi, and as the Tickner Fellow in Creative Writing at Gilman School in Baltimore. He now teaches at Hamline University in St. Paul, Minnesota. His three novels, all published by McSweeney's, are Arkansas, Citrus County, and A Million Heavens. He recently published a fantastic story collection called Further Joy.
Tell me about where you live and why you love it so much.
Do you have a favorite children’s book?
When I asked him to be one of the contributors to my "Time Travel" collection, he put his ingenious mind to work and came up with a totally unique way to answer my questions.
By the way, since so many of you liked the personal questions I put forth to Leif Enger, I decided to make them the standard that all of the future authors in this series will be asked.
Here is John standing in front of one of my favorite bookstores.
Bio:
John Brandon was raised on the Gulf Coast of Florida. His second book, Citrus County, was featured on the cover of the New York Times Book Review. John has served as the Grisham Fellow in Creative Writing at University of Mississippi, and as the Tickner Fellow in Creative Writing at Gilman School in Baltimore. He now teaches at Hamline University in St. Paul, Minnesota. His three novels, all published by McSweeney's, are Arkansas, Citrus County, and A Million Heavens. He recently published a fantastic story collection called Further Joy.
Tell me about where you live and why you love it so much.
I
live in Minnesota, up north of St. Paul, in an expanse of cornfields that’s
becoming an expanse of townhouse complexes.
It’s possible I’m learning to love this climate. I’m attracted to character-building
exercises—trudging through 20-mile hikes and writing novels and such. I’ve endured two winters, and all the folks
here swear they’ve been exceptionally cold and long and snowy. They seem like trustworthy types, so maybe it’s
true. Anyway, it’s summertime now, which
is fantastic. There’s a city park in
good repair on every corner and when you leave town there are about 1,000 state
parks, all of them impeccably looked-after.
You just cannot avoid parks in this state.
Where were you living when you were 7 years old?
By
the time I was 7, we were settled in New Port Richey, where my parents and my
brother’s family still reside. Gulf
Coastal but no beaches. Cheap, good
seafood and sometimes a breezy dock to eat it on. When I was a boy there were lots of orange
groves and only a few too many strip malls.
Now the groves are mostly gone, and the malls are ubiquitous. That’s what happens.
Did you have a favorite teacher and are you still in touch
with him or her?
The
most recent was my senior-year English teacher, Mrs. Roll. She gave me a ton of leeway to make my own
reading list and turn in alternative assignments. She was very encouraging, but also she was
simply a reasonable person. Not many
adults seemed reasonable to me when I was 17.
I mostly felt sorry for them (which now that I’m an adult, I know was
the correct feeling). Mrs. Roll seemed
wise to me. She had something figured
out about life. I haven’t seen her in
awhile because she lives in Colorado now, but I know our paths will cross
again.
Is there a book
that changed the way you look at life?
I
was read to as a small child, and all those books undoubtedly shaped me in
ways, but I wasn’t interested in reading of my own volition until 10th
or 11th grade. I never did
the Hardy Boys or comic books or anything.
I was playing sports from a tender age, to the exclusion of most
else. But when I was 16 and stuck in a
crappy town with no art and very little variety as far as people (trashy white
people and non-trashy white people), my wanderlust was fired by reading
Kerouac. They’d be barreling through the
West, buying gas with quarters and meeting girls and talking about Zen. Hitchhiking in Mexico and attending little
jazz parties in New York and whatnot.
And then there was Hemingway in Paris and Spain. And the olden Russians, so civilized and
philosophical. The underbelly of London. Etc. I
was gripped with fear that there were a bunch of things happening I’d never
see, places I’d never go, or if I did get there, it would be too late.
Do you have a favorite children’s book?
As
you know, Jon, I’m partial to Mike Mulligan and His Steam Shovel.
What are the funniest or most embarrassing stories your family tells about you?
I
never left the South until I was in college.
Thing was, I was supposed to have.
The summer I got my learner’s permit, my family had a big trip planned
to hit all the Western highlights—all the way to California. It was to be a several-week deal. Well, my parents had the poor judgment to let
me take the first driving shift. It was
before sunup, headed north on route 19.
The old Isuzu Trooper with a pop-up camper in tow. An animal scurried across the road—can’t
remember what kind—and I swerved to miss it.
That would’ve been fine, except for the camper. It started to fishtail and pull us around on
the road and we wound up skidding into the median and dumping over on our
side. The Trooper was worse for wear,
but the camper was totaled. No one got
hurt, but the trip was off. This display
of driving acumen happened one county north of where we’d started. One county.
We regrouped and wound up going to the Smoky Mountains instead.
Is
there any message you want to give to or anything you want to say to
your great-great-great grandchildren when they read this?
No
thanks. I wouldn’t know what to say
except to give advice, and I’m not much for giving advice. I don’t think I was ever very good at taking
it either.
How did you meet your wife? How did your first date go?
We
met at a crowded dance club in Ybor City, which used to be a grimy part of
Tampa where kids went to have fun and now is a manicured part of Tampa where
anyone can go to have something akin to fun.
The music was incredibly loud. I
think there was a sink-or-swim drink special—where you pay $10 and drink all
the watered-down rum and cokes you want.
She yelled her number in my ear, and despite a significant drunk I
remembered it until I got home and was able to write it down. So yeah, we met in a bar.
And…………………………
Will your fans get to read another book from you any time soon?
Will your fans get to read another book from you any time soon?
Sadly,
it’ll be awhile. All thirteen of my fans
will have to muddle through for a few years until I can write the next novel
up. I’m starting it this summer. It’ll be set in Florida in the 19th
century.
Now, here is John's totally distinctive way he decided
to answer the time travel question:
to answer the time travel question:
IF YOU COULD GO BACK IN TIME
to any period from
before recorded history to yesterday,
be safe from harm, be
rich, poor or in-between, if appropriate to your choice,
actually experience
what it was like to live in that time, anywhere at all,
meet anyone, if you
desire, speak with them, listen to them, be with them.
When
would you go?
Where
would you go?
Who
would you want to meet?
And most
importantly, why do you think you chose this time?
THE WINDOWS of HEAVEN
Dwyer was stuck in what he would
call a ravine, reclining in the shade of trees that seemed like they would bear
fruit in certain seasons. The terrain
was dry like the desert but full of vegetation, like parts of California, a
state he had driven through once years ago.
Now Dwyer lived in Chattanooga, Tennessee. Well, right
now he lived in this ravine, in some dusty and mild Biblical land, a
trickle of cool water but nothing to eat.
He had started to grow hungry but the feeling had dissipated. His stomach wasn’t growling anymore. Through the branches of the fruit trees, the
sky above Dwyer seemed like a small detail in a long, long story—a tired blue,
the clouds still incidental. Back in
Tennessee, nobody would notice he was gone.
He had every intention of returning but he felt profoundly stuck,
possibly abandoned. Maybe the couple in
the other side of the duplex would wonder what had happened to him, if it
turned out he never made it back, but they wouldn’t wonder strongly enough to
make inquiries, even casual ones like coming over and knocking on Dwyer’s door. He worked odd jobs and temporary factory
gigs, so it wasn’t like he’d be missed around the office Monday morning. There was a to-do list pinned to his
refrigerator; he hoped there was nothing embarrassing on it.
Before being brought to the ravine,
Dwyer had observed the vast yet tidy construction site. Workmen and tradesmen had been called, he
could tell, from near and far. There was
an area where pitch would be warmed, an area where wood was treated and another
where it was measured and cut. A cluster
of tents stood at one end on a bank of high ground. There was even a sort of cafeteria where
mutton and carrots were stewed in caldrons day and night. Mealtimes were not observed; a workman strode
by and was handed a steaming bowl and took it with him, to slurp down on the
way to his next task. Honestly, there
were no breaks at all. The urgency of
the assignment, of course, but Dwyer wondered how much the absence of cigarettes
played into the work rate. He remembered,
back when he smoked, being out on jobs and forgetting to bring cigarettes and
feeling not merely uninterested in breaks but annoyed by the idea of them. Sometimes he had a partner for the day, and
the partner might be out of smokes too, and Dwyer would find himself angry with
the man, like the man had cheated him at cards or something.
It
had seemed to Dwyer, on the site, that the workmen had not been aware that a
sea vessel was being built. They were
content to toil blindly. They were being
paid quite a bit, he suspected, and good pay had a way of trumping
curiosity. He didn’t notice anyone
making fun of Noah, as the Bible suggested, but good pay could take care of
that too, could cause a man to do his boss-mocking in private. And in truth, Noah seemed more a
figurehead. There was another guy, one
of these guys born to be an assistant, one of these guys who soared in the role
of right-hand man. Dwyer saw this guy
all over the site. He was smaller than
the workers but wasn’t a bit afraid of them.
His hair wasn’t wild and he had little red hands that hung like meat
from the sleeves of his garment. Because
of this man, no one got near Noah. He
hadn’t even heard Noah’s voice. This
assistant negotiated pay and acted as a translator. Dwyer had noticed that the assistant only ate
the carrots, not the mutton. He had
tried to stay close to this man without being obvious about it. He had blended himself in with this work crew
and then that one, general bustle and a language barrier his cloak, and no one
had seemed bothered by him. As was
stated in the rules, he’d arrived with the correct clothing. From his life back home he’d brought calluses
and muscled shoulders.
The
famous practical problems of the ark, which Professor Blakely had discussed
with Dwyer before he had embarked, seemed trivial in the context of the
buzzing construction site. The waste
disposal, the feed for all those beasts.
Of course there was always something to nitpick and always an answer to
be found in response to picked nits, but when you heard the grunts and smelled
the sweat, fussing about practicality seemed moot. The labor was the fact. The ark was less than half built, hadn’t
looked at all like a boat yet, and Dwyer could not begin to fathom whether it
could house a pair of every animal, but of course it would. It would be as big as it needed to be. He was aware of the reported numbers of
cubits, but when you saw the skeleton in front of you, it was like standing in
front of a stadium; you knew it was big because it was a stadium, but was it
huge? It occurred to Dwyer that many
things that happened in centuries distant from one’s own might seem outlandish. Earth being round. Automobiles.
Power tools. That a man could
work and work for years, nearly a decade, making other men rich and richer, and
end up with, for himself, only a few thousand dollars to his name.
Suddenly,
in the ravine, the sky the same inscrutable blue though the day was getting
late, he worried that if there was a God, He would get the wrong idea about
Dwyer. He would think Dwyer had traveled
here for some other reason than for money, like because Dwyer was skeptical,
like because Dwyer didn’t trust Him and wanted to poke holes in his legends. Really he just longed for a fair
shake. That was all. He wanted to be appreciated in small
ways. Clapped on the back. Given a bonus once in his life. He wanted girls to start being sweet to him
again. These were reasonable things to
ask of God. Whatever tall tales God
wanted him to swallow in return, he could swallow them.
Dwyer was getting hungry after
all. He thought of the leftover Indian
food in his refrigerator back in Chattanooga, how he would’ve scraped it out
into a bowl and warmed it in the microwave and scarfed it down with a
Coke. Maybe he still would. Night was falling. The best thing he could do was sleep. He thought of pleasant things. He thought of going fishing as a kid in a
neighborhood pond, walking though empty lots with his little brother, standing
on the mud bank. They’d chop up hot dog
and tug sunfish after sunfish up into the light. One day they’d snagged a hognose turtle. It was like dislodging a motorcycle from the
depths of the pond. Dwyer thought of
that drive he’d taken, whizzing through California with his shirt off, munching
on beef jerky. The money the trip had
cost him had been well blown. He still
believed that. He thought of when he’d
been very young and his father had taken him to the Navy Yards to watch a new
ship dropped into the bay. The ship had
submerged almost fully, lost to the world, sending waves lapping up over the
docks and splashing into a nearby playground. There was a frozen moment and then, patiently,
like it enjoyed worrying the onlookers, the ship righted itself. Of course it did. It wobbled and sloshed, great rivulets of
heavy saltwater pouring down its sides, cannons glistening.
The night had been the perfect
temperature for sleeping. Dwyer had been
dealt plenty of bum cards in his day, but he wasn’t going to be the type of
person who refused to acknowledge when something nice came his way. He liked to be cool when he slept, liked to
get under a blanket, and that’s sort of what he’d done. He’d taken off his garment of animal hide and
huddled beneath it and slept hard. That
was one of the rules—when you arrived at your destination in history, you would
be clothed appropriately. Another rule
was that Dwyer was supposed to be able to comprehend the language, but
evidently he hadn’t read the fine print on that one. He could only understand Noah’s assistant and
a few others who seemed closely connected to Noah—the three sons maybe. The problem was that most of the workmen
hailed from far off regions where foreign dialects were spoken. You couldn’t understand every language, Dwyer
now saw, just the important one, the one you’d need to know to gather
information.
The
main rule was that Dwyer would be safe.
No harm would come to him; that was a part of the contract he’d actually
read, or at least dutifully skimmed. And
strictly this rule had not yet been broken, but Dwyer had been manhandled, had
been dragged from camp and thrown into a ravine, and he was hungry. Occasionally the wind would carry him the
scent of the stewing mutton and by now it was all but driving him crazy. The hunger wasn’t in his stomach any
longer. His head was light and limbs
heavy. The main thing, he knew, was to
stay calm—not to think too much. He
couldn’t afford to get down on himself for agreeing to this. It was a job and he needed money; since when
was he picky about jobs? But he wished
he’d asked Professor Blakely some pointed questions, wished he’d taken the contract
home and picked through it. The truth
was he hadn’t wanted to know the details.
He hadn’t wanted to discover something that would’ve kept him from
signing on. And now he was entertaining
notions he didn’t want to entertain. He
was thinking Professor Blakely was too
nerdy a professor. He’d been wearing a
bow tie. He’d been wearing a jacket with
patches on the sleeves in ninety-degree weather. He’d been remarkably awkward, had botched his
and Dwyer’s handshake. Dwyer didn’t know
where this line of thought had started or where it lead, but he was now giving
credence to the idea that Professor Blakely could have been an actor, a front
man, meant to seem innocuous and consumed with scientific endeavor. Professor Blakely’s name could’ve been Steve
Simpson or Ben Cole and he could’ve had a couple regional commercials in his
credits, a slimy agent, a stack of headshots.
If he was going
to keep thinking about it, which seemed the case, Noah’s assistant didn’t even
seem real. He seemed like a person from
Dwyer’s era, not from Chattanooga but from a city somewhere, a mean uptown
kiss-ass. He seemed like someone who could
do well in Washington DC. If whoever was
behind Professor Blakely could send Dwyer back in time, then other parties
could send other people. Competing
interests. No, he hadn’t thought this
through at all. He could hardly remember
now what the other choices had been, besides Noah. The loaves and fishes thing. That was one.
And Lazarus. Noah had been the
first on the list, so Dwyer had chosen him. He hadn’t wanted to weigh options; he’d wanted an assignment.
High noon. The sun white and silent above him. Dwyer had scoured the ravine for berries or
nuts or mushrooms, and had come up empty.
He was thinking again. No use
trying not to. He was thinking about the
fact that God had promised never to flood the world again not because he felt
sorry about it, but because he’d realized humans were beyond help. Humans were broken and deaf. “The imagination of man’s heart is evil from
his youth,” is the way God put it. Dwyer
remembered that from Bible school. That
part had stuck with him.
He
stared upward. No clouds. Something was up there, though. There had to be something hiding up there,
for it to look so plain.
There was nothing special about the
two men who had thrown him into the ravine.
They’d been drunk, which was against the rules of the site. They hadn’t been angry with Dwyer. They’d roused him out of his tent in the
night and dragged him what he estimated was less than a mile to this makeshift
prison and he hadn’t seen them since.
No abuse. No threats, even. They hadn’t tried to rob him. The possibilities: They had forgotten altogether about putting
Dwyer in here, had gotten up the next morning and gone back to work none the
wiser and would never know a thing about this deed they’d committed one night
in a drunken reverie. Or, with colossal
hangovers, they’d been assaulted by the morning sun and their own bowels and
had been unable to work and were shown the door by Noah’s assistant. He had seen that happen dozens of times in
Chattanooga, dudes throwing up all morning and finally getting shit-canned at
lunch. The two guys hadn’t even seemed
to enjoy dragging him to the ravine.
They hadn’t laughed. They hadn’t
argued. They’d said a few things, in one
of the countless languages Dwyer couldn’t understand. He was having a hard time picturing the pair
now. They had looked mostly alike—that
he remembered. Maybe that was why he
couldn’t picture them. One spoke in an
eager ramble, and the other cautiously and without inflection. It seemed the fast-talking one was foolhardy
and the other wise, but that may not have been the case. The quiet one may have been quiet because he
was dull-witted.
Dwyer
was dull-witted. That wasn’t in
question. He was stuck in a ravine. He was stuck in a ravine and the worst storm
in all of history was brewing out over the sea somewhere, headed for him. He took some deep breaths of the thin air. He could’ve used a cigarette. He hadn’t lit up in the sober light of day
for many months, but if offered a cigarette at this moment he’d have gratefully
accepted. It was getting to the hottest
part of the day and he was trapped in the shade of trees that in another part
of the year might produce juicy, sweet sustenance.
Dwyer’s patience
was fraying fast. He was not meant to be
cooped up. He kept thinking of that
damned assistant, and now the two workmen who’d thrown him in the ravine didn’t
seem credible, either. They seemed like
movie ruffians, like goons produced in order to advance a plot. He was a pawn but maybe God had his pawns
as well. Dwyer wanted to gaze skyward
but he wasn’t going to indulge in that anymore.
He put his feet up on a big rock that seemed to be ticking with warmth. He looked at his hands. They were familiar. He wanted to be home in his duplex. He wanted to appreciate what he had. He wanted to be young, and maybe he was. He looked at the sky, ignoring its static,
smirking hue, trying to imagine a wonderful rainbow.
Here is Mr. Brandon contemplating his next step in life
(or not).
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